gerbie | Mister Bush, do feel free to use this

It took a while before we learned what we did wrong. It took a big attack, in which thousands of innocent lives have been lost, before we realised that the way we are dealing with the rest of the world was wrong. I am very sorry that this has had to happen. From here there are two possible options. A third world war or a continuation of what we have been doing over the last decade, a cold war against everything we Americans considered wrong. It would make the cold war look like a fight in kindergarten. We shall take none of these options. As a true Christian, we will turn the other cheek. The only way this cycle can be stopped as by not reacting. No retaliation, no attacks on possible suspects. I shall repeat this, read my lips, NO RETALIATION.

It is time for us to admit that we had this one coming. Fifty years of interfering everywhere in the world whenever it suited us has come to a bloody final. Now we see what we have done in Korea and Vietnam. In Cuba and the Dominican Republic. In Haiti and Guatemala. In Nicaragua and Chile. In Panama and Somalia. And in dozens of other countries. Thousands of innocent Americans have become the victim of an idiot who wanted us to know what we did wrong. Until now we knew, but thought we could get away with it. We couldn't.

From now on we shall do whatever is necessary to help all those families in this tragedy. But not only the thousands who have died in the last 24 hours, but also those thousands who died in the last 50 years, because we considered our position in the world more important than the lives of individuals. The whole budget from defence will go to welfare, social benefits or third world development. We will finally pay off our billions of debt to the UN. We well recognise the UN as the true world power, the voice of the people of the world. We will do as the majority wants us to. We shall propose the abolishment of veto's for countries who happen to have too much power.

Finally I shall resign from my position as President of the United States of America. We will soon have new elections in which every vote is counted, in which democracy will really work. Until then I shall hand over the power to the senate.

Let our thoughts be with the ones who have lost their lives. Thank you for your attention, God bless America and peace on earth!

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I know there is plenty of stuff linking him, but no direct evidence. As you say, it might not stand up in a trial. I just liked the quote from this guy, because the OJ trial gave the whole world an example how cases can get lost after a years trial, even though nearly everybody considers him guilty. But he couldn't be convicted on that trial, the reasonable doubt was there. As there is still doubt about Bin Laden's role in this story. Ask anybody with half a brain and they'll name him. But I still prefer a world where the guilty get aquitted, above a world where the innocent hang!

The evidence against bin Ladin can't be released because it is classified. It would endanger the lives and positions of the intelligence people that have gathered it. It would endanger the countries in the Middle East that have offered it. To release the information to early would cut off ways of obtaining any info in the future. It would give the Taliban clues as to how info is obtained. That would be stupid. The proof will be offered when everything is in place to make a move. There is NO way it could have gotten this far if there wasn't overwhelming proof and the government wasn't 100% sure. The evidence has been shared with Great Britain, Germany and France so far.

Excuse me for sounding cynical, but who has the evidence? If it is classified, why let everyone know that there is evidence. If they've got it, why tell others? Is it the Taliban or Bin Laden who is behind it. To me the CIA or FBI having proof sounds as convincing as the statement by the Taliban telling the world they don't know where Bin Laden is.

Wow, you are cynical! I am having a hard time with your whole statement.
"Why let everyone know?" Well, aren't you the one that wants to see the evidence. What if they were saying absolutely nothing? Wouldn't you be even more annoyed? They can say that there is evidence and not be giving away classified information. What do you think they should do?
"If they've got it, why tell others?" Come on, really? Of course those that have offered to fight need to know everything possible.
It is bin Ladin that is behind it. Some people in the Taliban support what he does, some don't. If the Taliban continues to protect him and his followers, then they are included.

Why are you so distrusting of Americans? Why do you have such a cynical view of us? Why do you think the CIA and FBI would be misleading the world? Nobody wants a war, nobody wants innocent people to die. Where does all of this distrust come from, can you help me understand that?

The distrust comes from the fact that the CIA has played a role in many operations abroad that weren't for the good of the world, not for the world peace, but purely and solely because the US thought it was necessary, either for win of money or win of political power. I do not distrust Americans, I distrust the American political system.

If the CIA had told the world that they didn't have any evidence at the moment, what do you think the reactions would be? The best reaction for them would be that they were called incompetent, it could be much worse. So it would surprise me had they said so. So if they say they do have evidence, I just think: they would, wouldn't they, regardless if it is true or not.

I guess you will just have to wait and see then. I believe the evidence is there. I believe you're right about some CIA operations. However, I don't necessarily disagree with them doing things to benefit just our country. It depends on the specifics. Unless you can give me that, then I don't know.

An entry I wrote earlier this year about a great book. An American was killed in Santiago, because he knew too much.

http://www.livejournal.com/talkread.bml?itemid=4637600

The book told me about the role the CIA played in Chile.

Ok, I am sure there have been some shady things done in the name of the CIA. I don't doubt that at all. I may completely disagree with some of it. I don't know about this particular case, though. It sounds vaguely familiar, I would bet there is more to it. There are at least 2 sides to every story right? I will look into it though.

I thought it was interesting, though, in your "book review" you mentioned your prejudice against the US. That is what I really want to understand. If you have a bias already then you can make everything you read and hear prove that bias. You seek out the information to boost your beliefs. Nothing wrong with that. I just would like to understand exactly where you are coming from.
I just personally think that I live in a really amazing and beautiful country. I also think many other countries are beautiful and amazing. I may not agree with everything that my country has done in history... but I really believe in what America stands for. How many Americans do you know? Not LJ know, but REALLY know. I am just curious.
Also, remember, the US is not the only country to have a "shady" past. (Or present.) If you base your opinion on the CIA you are going to have to do that for all secret operatives in all nations. I'm sure if that information were available you would be shocked.

Very true, I wouldn't want to know everything that goes on behind the scenes in international politics. I agree that the US has got some brilliant things, that other countries lack.

I also agree with the statement that if you're biased already, you will look for things to confirm. I do know some Americans. Not many. But I have met plenty of them, I also travelled through the States on three occasions.

The thing that nags me has to do with the fact that my country is politically completely depending on the US. Coming back to the cold war point I have used before. Why did we have to choose between the two parties who together battled the Germans out of my country? Why suddenly was America heaven and the Soviet Union hell? Why do we have to stay loyal infinitely because your country helped rebuild my country. When do we start thinking for ourselves again.

I have written about this before. Another link:

http://www.livejournal.com/talkread.bml?itemid=5285251

Obviously I exaggerated, the last sentence came back to haunt me three months later, if you have got time read, and also read the comments by others and my replies. It gives a bit more an idea why I have reacted as I have done up until now.

Ok, I read it. I think that I will take up too much space with my thoughts so I will respond to you in my journal, Ok? See ya there.

Ok, I have found it and read it, my reaction will follow soon as well :-)

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