Eyes and teeth..

[gerbie]

Eye for an eye. Are we blind?

Nice poster I saw in a window this morning on my way to work.

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[jeroen.livejournal.com]

no, we're not blind, we both still have one eye left and can see very clearly through that one

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[gerbie.livejournal.com]

But do you still see things clear, after you have just lost sight in one. Immediately afterwards your judgment might not be very bright. Your one eye needs time to adjust. You don't go out finding the one who did it yourself, you leave that to those who have jurisdiction to do so.

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[jeroen.livejournal.com]

I can see things clear, if losing one eye is the sacrifice we have to make in order to live on like we did before, I fully agree with it and if I could, I'd do it myself too, but I have the fullest trust in the ones who do it for me now.

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[gerbie.livejournal.com]

But do others have to suffer, because they who blinded you happen to be near them?

[jeroen.livejournal.com]

in an ideal world, no, but this world is not ideal, there's no other solution

[gerbie.livejournal.com]

That's such an obvious comment, I hadn't expected that one coming from you. No other solution? What happened to diplomacy? What happened to justice?

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[jeroen.livejournal.com]

Yes, it is an obvious comment, sorry to disappoint you, I'd like to give another, I've thought about it, but there is no other answer. I regret this whole situation like everyone else. Diplomacy? There was only one way they could get out of this, and that is to hand over the one(s) responsible and stop funding/harboring others. They had no intention of doing any of this, talks have been going on for years now, without any result. Diplomacy sadly isn't good enough sometimes. Justice? I still believe the ones responsible will come to justice.

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[gerbie.livejournal.com]

Talks have been going on for years? The US has funded the Taliban for years, it was useful for them in their cold war battle against the Soviet Union. Everyone who has read the papers knows that the Taliban has backfired the country in the last decade and a half, why suddenly now they have to be attacked? Is there any evidence of direct involvement of the Taliban in those brutal attacks? I don't think so.

[jeroen.livejournal.com]

There have been talks, under the Clinton adminstration after previous terrorist attacks, when they already suspected Bin Laden to be in Afghanistan, being harbored by the Taliban regime.
The cold war is over, politics have changed in the world, the CIA has done very stupid things (as well as the Russians) and indeed America has to pay for these mistakes now, this time in the form of a Taliban regime. That they funded them in a completely different world situation, is no reason not to attack them now. There is direct evidence that the Bin Laden organisation is involved, the Taliban protects Bin Laden and his terrorist camps, ergo the Taliban is directly involved in the brutal attacks. No more hiding behind, 'we didn't do it' and protect the ones who did.

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[gerbie.livejournal.com]

And why should they help the USA. What has the USA done for them after the cold war? At least Bin Laden has some sort of (weird, I admit) honesty: he just tells blatantly what his views are and acts upon them. The USA have been worse than Christian Democrat Politicians in the Netherlands: today it is this, tomorrow black happens to be white again. They piss me off more than ever. I will never say they deserve what they got, but they had something coming.