United States
Jun. 15th, 2001 02:38 pmI have used this point quite a few times now during a discussion, so I might as well put it here as well.
I consider the United States of America a third world country.
Look at it and you'll realise I am right. It has all the characteristics that are normally attributes to developing countries.
Apart from the barbarian death penalty, there are plenty of other signs. The prisons are full, the percentage people in prison is unrivalled (another sign that the death penalty doesn't actually scare people off), but worse is that in prison the percentages of minorities are huge. And so are the percentages of innocent, under age and people who are not capable of managing normal decisions. I'm not even referring to the way people are being treated inside.
Class justice is normal, is the rule, not the exception, money can buy you freedom, lack of money gives innocents a real risk of ending behind bars anyway.
It's education system is a joke. Apart from a few top schools and universities, I am surprised every single time again when I bump into Americans who don't know their own country as well as an average foreigner does. People earn a degree just because they happen to be able to use their overweight on a football field.
There is no other industrialised country that has so much poverty, the social system is pathetic as well. No real unemployment benefits to speak of, no serious rights for employees, no holidays that deserve that name. Health care is unaffordable if you do not happen to be rich. The difference in standard between private and public hospitals shouldn't exist.
Some of their cities are as dangerous as other top cities for danger in the world, not coincidentally in 3rd world countries.
The political system can't be taking serious either, the last election just an example. Isn't it funny that Castro actually offered to send some observers to the USA to help them out with counting. Why does one election have to have dozens of different ballots and methods of counting? Somebody with less votes than his opponent can actually become president. Apart from the 2 traditional parties, no one has a chance.
Their drugs policy is old fashioned. Even though Astma patients may benefit from smoking a joint, they pretend that smoking something innocent is as dangerous as dealing harddrugs. Statistics show though that the repressive system only temps the youth to try out. In comparison with countries where the softdrugs are decriminalised, the percentage smokers in the States is nearly twice as high.
The right to wear a weapon, the right to defend yourself is ridiculous. If nobody is entitled to have weapons in homes, most of the massacres in schools and others public places could easily be avoided. Though mr Heston and his political mafia still remains an important political factor in the country.
There is no country where there are as many serial killers. Is that coincidence?
How can a tiny, fairly small country as Cuba be condemned for being communistic, whereas world power China, more communistic than the Caribean isle, is the biggest trading partner?
Why does the whole world have to suffer for the fact that the United States used the capitalistic system, that rules the world since the second world war, to add to its own power. Sometimes I wonder if the world would have been worse off if the Germans had won the war? Don't get me wrong on that last remark, I'm only trying to say that extreme capitalism to me resembles fascism in many ways.
Unfortunately we are talking about the country that uses it military power and economical influence (power of numbers) to influence the whole F***ing world. If I wasn't a pacifist and a baseball addict I'd suggest to just nuke the place.
I consider the United States of America a third world country.
Look at it and you'll realise I am right. It has all the characteristics that are normally attributes to developing countries.
Apart from the barbarian death penalty, there are plenty of other signs. The prisons are full, the percentage people in prison is unrivalled (another sign that the death penalty doesn't actually scare people off), but worse is that in prison the percentages of minorities are huge. And so are the percentages of innocent, under age and people who are not capable of managing normal decisions. I'm not even referring to the way people are being treated inside.
Class justice is normal, is the rule, not the exception, money can buy you freedom, lack of money gives innocents a real risk of ending behind bars anyway.
It's education system is a joke. Apart from a few top schools and universities, I am surprised every single time again when I bump into Americans who don't know their own country as well as an average foreigner does. People earn a degree just because they happen to be able to use their overweight on a football field.
There is no other industrialised country that has so much poverty, the social system is pathetic as well. No real unemployment benefits to speak of, no serious rights for employees, no holidays that deserve that name. Health care is unaffordable if you do not happen to be rich. The difference in standard between private and public hospitals shouldn't exist.
Some of their cities are as dangerous as other top cities for danger in the world, not coincidentally in 3rd world countries.
The political system can't be taking serious either, the last election just an example. Isn't it funny that Castro actually offered to send some observers to the USA to help them out with counting. Why does one election have to have dozens of different ballots and methods of counting? Somebody with less votes than his opponent can actually become president. Apart from the 2 traditional parties, no one has a chance.
Their drugs policy is old fashioned. Even though Astma patients may benefit from smoking a joint, they pretend that smoking something innocent is as dangerous as dealing harddrugs. Statistics show though that the repressive system only temps the youth to try out. In comparison with countries where the softdrugs are decriminalised, the percentage smokers in the States is nearly twice as high.
The right to wear a weapon, the right to defend yourself is ridiculous. If nobody is entitled to have weapons in homes, most of the massacres in schools and others public places could easily be avoided. Though mr Heston and his political mafia still remains an important political factor in the country.
There is no country where there are as many serial killers. Is that coincidence?
How can a tiny, fairly small country as Cuba be condemned for being communistic, whereas world power China, more communistic than the Caribean isle, is the biggest trading partner?
Why does the whole world have to suffer for the fact that the United States used the capitalistic system, that rules the world since the second world war, to add to its own power. Sometimes I wonder if the world would have been worse off if the Germans had won the war? Don't get me wrong on that last remark, I'm only trying to say that extreme capitalism to me resembles fascism in many ways.
Unfortunately we are talking about the country that uses it military power and economical influence (power of numbers) to influence the whole F***ing world. If I wasn't a pacifist and a baseball addict I'd suggest to just nuke the place.
Listen...
Date: 2001-08-25 09:35 am (UTC)Let me tell you, living in a country that there is NO constitution in is not all that fun. The stuff that you just wrote? ONLY because of the US constitution would you be allowed to say things like that. You go live in another country and try and say stuff like that. The American justice system is not perfect, I'll admit that. But it is the best in the world. The Miranda rights, Gideon V. Wainwright, INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY...all of these things are so important. In every other country, they don't put up with all of that. Education is lacking, I'll admit that. But when people like Jeb Bush, the governor of Florida, tried to give educational vouchers to better schools for families, everybody screamed. The upper classes of America are paying nearly 50% of their gross profits in taxes for medicare, medicaid and social security. I'll tell you, I see alot of people living below the poverty line driving cadillacs and having their hair and nails done and screaming about upper class oppression. If they spent that money on FOOD they'd be better off. People lech off of the system, THAT'S why it doesn't work. Instead of just sitting here bitching, you see a problem? Write to your congressman. Do something about it. And remember, a good deal of the world's population would give their arms for american citizenship. Don't waste yours.
Re: Listen...
Date: 2001-08-25 03:48 pm (UTC)I don't mind anybody being proud of their country. Yours must have done something right in the past, to obtain the power it has nowadays. But do you honestly believe that it is the only country with freedom of speech? Keep dreaming! Do you think I made up those facts that were in my statement? Think again.
How many countries do you know well enough to judge? I have been travelling a lot lately, I have worked in quite a few countries over the last decade. Still I only think I can tell a lot about a dozen countries or so. And then there are a few dozen others of which I have an impression. Which still leaves me in the blank over hundred something countries I know nothing more about than the name and it's capital or language.
But out of those few dozen countries, there are very few I rate lower than the USA. Any Scandinavian country (I'd gladly pay 70% taxes and accept a few leaches in the system) have a great standard of living. Most western European countries have everything you like in the States. Plus they have abolished the Death penalty. And they've got culture that goes back to the time when the Indians still ruled North America. I'd rather live in Cuba, Honduras, Indonesia or Venezuela, however much I could write about these countries as well, at least I'd know I'd be getting on with most of the locals and I would live in atmosphere that was friendly, not driven by money and greed. The corruption would at least be open, you know what to expect. And it would be much safer in the meantime.
Don't try to defend what is wrong. I respect the right to like your native country and as I said previous: I love Major League Baseball. But your arguments still haven't done anything to my opinion that the USA is a third world country.